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and discussion but i would be hard pressed. >>neil: would you support john kerry? >> let's go through the process. john kerry came a whisker of being president of the united states, and that's working if his favor. but i would love to hear him make the case. i don't have anything in his background like this tragedy in benghazi that would make me really want to carefully examine the whole situation. >>neil: you know him pretty well and there was talk he wanted you on his ticket, do you know if he is frustrated he could be passed up for the secretary of state position? >> i think john has been very careful about his views on this situation. and appropriately so i have not heard him express any specifics. >>neil: if i could move on to grover norquist and some of the colleagues taking a different tact on the pledge. what do you think of this? >> i admire grover norquist. he has a role to play in the search air i don't of the republican party. i have always been against ethanol subsidies, sugar subsidies, all of those things that i thought were wasteful and unnecessariful and the result of special int
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